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Today, I was solicited with an employment scam. I wanted to post this one as an example of some of the employment scams people are presented with. Largely, they are phishing scams (digging for personal information: bank account number, mailing/physical address, social security number; etc).
I pasted the entire interaction below — verbatim — including the initial text message, so you can review it. Most of this interaction was via Google Hangouts, as the scammer requested in the text message.
Early on, I was suspicious; having encountered scams before, I went along trying to get more information.
Take note, I asked several times for the phone number and contact information for his specific office; and his extension. Either these requests were ignored; or I was provided with vague, non-identifiable information.
They got my phone number off of my Indeed.com profile, and sent me a text message.
“”Good day,
In regard of your resume on INDEED for the Customer Service/Data Entry has been reviewed and you are qualified for a job interview for the position. I want you to setup a Google Hangout and if you have one, add Mr David Becksman the Hiring Manager and IM his on his ID Hangout (davidbecksman@gmail.com ) ASAP for the interview and job briefing following our newest online screening introduced, the interview session will commence online.
To Contact our Hiring Manager
Name: David Becksman
Google hangout: davidbecksman@gmail.com
Company Name: Luxottica
Time: ASAP
Best of luck,
Human Resources Department.”” ~ quote: from text message.
David (scammer): “Hello
My name is Mr David Becksman the Hiring Manager of Luxottica. Am here to brief you more about the job/interview and will also like to know if you are ready for your interview?”
ME: “Hi David. Sure!”
David: “It’s nice connecting with you. Just follow the briefing and interview, you can ask questions when I am through and I will be glad to answer them. Let me tell you about the company you would be working for. Respond with an okay after each paragraph so I know you have read and understood okay”
ME: “ok!”
David: “Luxottica is a leader in the design, manufacture and distribution of fashion, luxury and sports eyewear. Its portfolio includes proprietary brands such as Ray-Ban, Oakley, Vogue Eyewear, Persol, Oliver Peoples and Alain Mikli, as well as licensed brands including Giorgio Armani, Burberry, Bulgari, Chanel, Coach, Dolce&Gabbana, Ferrari, Michael Kors, Prada, Ralph Lauren, Tiffany & Co., Valentino and Versace.
Luxottica’s international expansion has developed its geographic footprint worldwide. The Group’s global wholesale distribution network covers more than 150 countries across five continents and is complemented by an extensive retail network of approximately 9,100 stores, with LensCrafters and Pearle Vision in North America, OPSM and Laubman & Pank in Australia and New Zealand, Spectacle Hut in Singapore, GMO and Óticas Carol in Latin America, Salmoiraghi&Viganò in Italy and Sunglass Hut worldwide.
One of the Group’s competitive advantages is the vertically integrated business model built over the years, covering the entire value chain: design, product development, manufacturing, logistics and distribution.
Product design, development and manufacturing take place in Luxottica’s six manufacturing facilities located in Italy, three facilities in China, one in Brazil and one facility in the United States devoted to sports and performance eyewear. Luxottica also has two small plants in Japan and India serving the local market.
Luxottica also has produced sun and ophthalmic lenses for more than 20 years. The Company has increased its manufacturing capacity with the recent addition of three new laboratories in Europe, North America and Asia-Pacific which are completely integrated with its logistics hubs.”
ME: “Ok”
David: “This is strictly online and works from home job for now and you can as well work from anywhere of your choice or anytime that does suit you. You can choose to work during Morning, Afternoon and even during the evening. The pay rate is $25 per hour while training is $15 per hour and will be getting paid weekly or bi-weekly via check, or direct deposit. let me know if you are interested so we can proceed.”
ME: “Sounds great!
One question though: If you work with Luxottica, why the @gmail.com domain?”
David: “We can’t use google hangout with the company email”
ME: “Actually, you could; I used my outlook.com email with Hangout; they sent me a validation code to type in to register this account.
You would be able to do the same with your company email address.”
David (scammer): “We couldn’t”
ME: “Odd; ok.”
David: “KNOWLEDGE: Clerical/Administrative, English Language, Customer and Personal Service
Abilities: Information Ordering, Written Comprehension, Category Flexibility, Oral Comprehension, Oral Expression, and Written Expression.
hope you posses the above listed?
ME: “Yes. Is it customer service via telephone, or VOIP?”
David: “Via telephone. The Positions currently available are :,Customer Service Rep, Data Entry. Which are you applying for?”
ME: “I would be interested in both, but I would say data entry for now.”
David: “Data Entry:
Main duties and responsibilities is to enter data into computers. This data may be text and numbers. It may relate to customers, suppliers and manufacturers and may be scientific, technical, financial or sales-based. The computer system dictates the way the worker enters the data. The system requires data to be in a specific format so it can produce material such as invoices and analytical reports. Can you handle that ?”
ME: “Yes”
David: “Note: You will be trained by one of the company supervisors that will be attached to you On-line. My supervisors will reach you via e-mail or phone for your position offer-documents and your working papers. Also, they will put you through our company’s guidelines under US Human Resources Laws and Regulations if you are hired.”
ME: “Ok, sounds great.
Could you also send me the phone # for your office? And what city/state/country it’s in. Thank you!”
David: “You should provide answer to the following questions starting from number one to number 13… You have 25 minutes.
( 1 ) What type of jobs have you had?
( 2 ) How did you get your previous jobs?
( 3 ) What were your main responsibilities? Achievements?
( 4 ) How long do you intend working for this company ?
( 5 ) Are you currently employed?
( 6 ) Are you willing to work flexible or long hours?
( 7 ) Do you have a HP laser-jet printer, copier and scanner?
( 8 ) Are you seeking a Full time or Part time Position ?
( 9 ) What mobile carrier network do you use?
( 10 )Are you proficient in Word and Excel ?
( 11 ) How would you like to be Paid ? Weekly Or Bi-Weekly/Direct deposit or Wire Transfer ?
( 12 ) What Bank Do you Operate with to see if it tallies with the company’s official salary payment account ?
( 13 ) What do you understand by privacy and code of conduct ?”–end David’s quote…
“(1) Fork-lift, warehousing, sandblasting, manufacturing, technical support, customer service, data entry, sales, and help desk.
(2) Usually applying directly, or through contingent agent.
(3) In any customer service/technical support role, consistently maintain a 95%, or above, customer rated satisfaction rating. I have a lot of experience implementing 5S/6S Lean+Safety in an industrial/warehouse environment; improving safety, organization, and process improvements by designing improvements and implementing them. Typical typing speed around 69 wpm with at least 97% accuracy.
(4) I am looking for a long-term opportunity; with potentially, the possibility of advancement. (5) No. (6) Yes. (7) Yes [not HP brand, but equal].
(8) Prefer full-time, but open-minded to other options. (9) t-mobile. (10) Yes.
(11) Weekly via direct deposit; open to other options.
(12) They all do, it’s a credit union in a national network of other credit unions.
(13) Confidentiality of customers’ personal information, and the protection of private information; to ensure it’s not distributed to 3rd parties without consent.”
David: “In a grade of %100 how much can this company depend on you for your loyalty,diligence,hard work,team spirit and sincerity ?”
ME: “I would say 95% plus; at least. I rarely get sick, and I do not abuse time off requests; so they will be there for me when I actually really need the time off for something important. I prefer to be efficient on the front end, so I have more time for organization, soliciting feedback, etc. I know team-work is required and important for maximum effectiveness.”
David: “Your answers will be forwarded to my head of department now for review and consideration for (15-20) minutes. I will be here shortly with your interview result. Please standby and make sure your Hangout is available.”
ME: “Ok. Thank you David!”
David: “CONGRATULATIONS!!! After due consideration and answers you provided during the interview session, Luxottica is pleased to offer you the position of a Data Entry. Due to your experience and communication skills we have decided to give you a chance to work for the company and we trust that your knowledge, skills and experience will be among our most valuable assets.”
ME: “Great news; thank you!”
David: “Your Primary duties include: Assist on general administrative duties, Preparation of Balance sheets (Mini), account balancing, invoicing recording,proper data analysis of sales records and recording pay slips into accounting database all these will be done through the use of the Accounting Software.
Secondary duties: Now, your secondary daily duties would be to report to your Supervisor, who would be attached to you online, He/She would assign logs of duty daily and you would be required to work according to instructions, using the Microsoft Office tools and the Accounting software. Now the function of the Accounting software is to arrange, formalize and manage the data you have processed, sent to your supervisor via E-mail.
Can you handle these effectively if been trained towards it ?”
ME: “Yes.”
David: “As for your duties, I will assist you with any difficulties.. You can as well work between 40 hours weekly and you are 100 percent sure of getting paid for it.. Working hours are flexible. All activities and corresponding time are to be recorded in excel spreadsheet. You will Earn $25 per hour, You will receive your pay via Direct Deposit/Cheque weekly Okay”
ME: “Ok; thanks.”
David: “In the meantime, I need you to provide me with the following info so my secretary can put you to register….
Full Name:
Home address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Cell and home number:
Favorable email address:”–end David’s quote.
ME: “Can you send me your contact information first please?
I have zero information about your office, except your email.”
David: “Luxottica.com”
ME: “Oh, thanks; I meant your office phone, extension, address of your office. Thanks!”
David: “It’s international company don’t you read about it”
ME: “Yes. But they aren’t going to list the phone # to your office. Are you in Italy? What’s your extension?”
I wouldn’t recommend trying to drag on your conversations with scammers this far, it’s a complete waste of time; it’s best to just move on.
I’ve dealt with these kind of people a number of times over the years, and I was trying to get more information; though with the scammer is likely out of the country, and using a VOIP phone number–I wouldn’t get much information. I know when to stop.
But, this gives you an idea of the kind of process a scammer will use; with each scam, the process is the same, but the methods vary — sometimes wildly.
thebalancecareers.com: “Top 10 Job Scam Warning Signs“
Due diligence is your responsibility!
You have a right to ask questions! You have a right to verify information, and to ask 3rd parties to help verify information!
Even if you need to call the real company to ask about the person that claims to work there, whatever.
Thank you!
Administrative Professional
This just happened to me almost exactly like this last week.
time to shine again! 💯🙏❤️
David Beckman Same here
Owner at MBA Company llc.
I’m Lucy from Monster. We offer quality remote online part-time/full-time jobs. Flexible working hours allow you to work 5 days a week and receive a bonus of $200 to $2000 per day. You also receive a base salary of $1500 every 5 working days. This job can bring a good income to the family. Regular employees are entitled to 10-20 days of paid annual leave. If you would like to join us, please contact us by adding WhatsApp: +12022905213
Computers Parts and RMA Process Outsoursing
I receive oferta 2 same HR 2 different company restaurant365 and UNACAST,, 2 REAL COMPANY 2 FAKE offers the Scam and I almost fell into the trap if it wasn’t for seeing the email Dominios, I would have fallen into the trap. and same HR Manager Name and lasta name
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Today, I was solicited with an employment scam. I wanted to post this one as an example of some of the employment scams people are presented with. Largely, they are phishing scams (digging for personal information: bank account number, mailing/physical address, social security number; etc).
I pasted the entire interaction below — verbatim — including the initial text message, so you can review it. Most of this interaction was via Google Hangouts, as the scammer requested in the text message.
Early on, I was suspicious; having encountered scams before, I went along trying to get more information.
Take note, I asked several times for the phone number and contact information for his specific office; and his extension. Either these requests were ignored; or I was provided with vague, non-identifiable information.
They got my phone number off of my Indeed.com profile, and sent me a text message.
“”Good day,
In regard of your resume on INDEED for the Customer Service/Data Entry has been reviewed and you are qualified for a job interview for the position. I want you to setup a Google Hangout and if you have one, add Mr David Becksman the Hiring Manager and IM his on his ID Hangout (davidbecksman@gmail.com ) ASAP for the interview and job briefing following our newest online screening introduced, the interview session will commence online.
To Contact our Hiring Manager
Name: David Becksman
Google hangout: davidbecksman@gmail.com
Company Name: Luxottica
Time: ASAP
Best of luck,
Human Resources Department.”” ~ quote: from text message.
- Email address from any FREE email server (eg: @gmail.com, @outlook.com, etc.).
- Note, I underlined the word “resume on Indeed.com” from the text message. In other words, I did NOT apply for the job directly; they found my information on Indeed.com. So it’s an unsolicited contact.
- Grammar is leaning unprofessional, and sentence structure is also poor.
- According to: https://www.411.com/phone/1-915-263-8940 ; the phone number is a VOIP (voice over internet protocol), and is “non-fixed”. Using VOIP, you can get a new phone number any time you choose; difficult to investigate too. There are many free services you can use to research a phone number, but only for basic information; more detailed information usually requires a fee, which usually isn’t needed for research.
David (scammer): “Hello
My name is Mr David Becksman the Hiring Manager of Luxottica. Am here to brief you more about the job/interview and will also like to know if you are ready for your interview?”
ME: “Hi David. Sure!”
David: “It’s nice connecting with you. Just follow the briefing and interview, you can ask questions when I am through and I will be glad to answer them. Let me tell you about the company you would be working for. Respond with an okay after each paragraph so I know you have read and understood okay”
ME: “ok!”
David: “Luxottica is a leader in the design, manufacture and distribution of fashion, luxury and sports eyewear. Its portfolio includes proprietary brands such as Ray-Ban, Oakley, Vogue Eyewear, Persol, Oliver Peoples and Alain Mikli, as well as licensed brands including Giorgio Armani, Burberry, Bulgari, Chanel, Coach, Dolce&Gabbana, Ferrari, Michael Kors, Prada, Ralph Lauren, Tiffany & Co., Valentino and Versace.
Luxottica’s international expansion has developed its geographic footprint worldwide. The Group’s global wholesale distribution network covers more than 150 countries across five continents and is complemented by an extensive retail network of approximately 9,100 stores, with LensCrafters and Pearle Vision in North America, OPSM and Laubman & Pank in Australia and New Zealand, Spectacle Hut in Singapore, GMO and Óticas Carol in Latin America, Salmoiraghi&Viganò in Italy and Sunglass Hut worldwide.
One of the Group’s competitive advantages is the vertically integrated business model built over the years, covering the entire value chain: design, product development, manufacturing, logistics and distribution.
Product design, development and manufacturing take place in Luxottica’s six manufacturing facilities located in Italy, three facilities in China, one in Brazil and one facility in the United States devoted to sports and performance eyewear. Luxottica also has two small plants in Japan and India serving the local market.
Luxottica also has produced sun and ophthalmic lenses for more than 20 years. The Company has increased its manufacturing capacity with the recent addition of three new laboratories in Europe, North America and Asia-Pacific which are completely integrated with its logistics hubs.”
ME: “Ok”
- NOTE: The excessive amount of information about Luxottica, that appears to be largely accurate about the real company; attempting to build credibility.
David: “This is strictly online and works from home job for now and you can as well work from anywhere of your choice or anytime that does suit you. You can choose to work during Morning, Afternoon and even during the evening. The pay rate is $25 per hour while training is $15 per hour and will be getting paid weekly or bi-weekly via check, or direct deposit. let me know if you are interested so we can proceed.”
- NOTE: Pre-positioning the option for direct deposit; so it’s not a shock later when he asks for your personal banking information.
ME: “Sounds great!
One question though: If you work with Luxottica, why the @gmail.com domain?”
David: “We can’t use google hangout with the company email”
- NOTE: This is a lie! You can setup a Google Hangouts account with either: an existing Gmail email address, a new Gmail email address; or, use an existing 3rd party email address (eg: @outlook.com), to register an account for use with Hangouts. During setup; you can also select between a personal use, or business use account.
ME: “Actually, you could; I used my outlook.com email with Hangout; they sent me a validation code to type in to register this account.
You would be able to do the same with your company email address.”
David (scammer): “We couldn’t”
ME: “Odd; ok.”
David: “KNOWLEDGE: Clerical/Administrative, English Language, Customer and Personal Service
Abilities: Information Ordering, Written Comprehension, Category Flexibility, Oral Comprehension, Oral Expression, and Written Expression.
hope you posses the above listed?
ME: “Yes. Is it customer service via telephone, or VOIP?”
David: “Via telephone. The Positions currently available are :,Customer Service Rep, Data Entry. Which are you applying for?”
ME: “I would be interested in both, but I would say data entry for now.”
David: “Data Entry:
Main duties and responsibilities is to enter data into computers. This data may be text and numbers. It may relate to customers, suppliers and manufacturers and may be scientific, technical, financial or sales-based. The computer system dictates the way the worker enters the data. The system requires data to be in a specific format so it can produce material such as invoices and analytical reports. Can you handle that ?”
ME: “Yes”
David: “Note: You will be trained by one of the company supervisors that will be attached to you On-line. My supervisors will reach you via e-mail or phone for your position offer-documents and your working papers. Also, they will put you through our company’s guidelines under US Human Resources Laws and Regulations if you are hired.”
ME: “Ok, sounds great.
Could you also send me the phone # for your office? And what city/state/country it’s in. Thank you!”
- NOTE: My last questions above went unanswered, and it took longer for him to reply after asking. Then he said:
David: “You should provide answer to the following questions starting from number one to number 13… You have 25 minutes.
( 1 ) What type of jobs have you had?
( 2 ) How did you get your previous jobs?
( 3 ) What were your main responsibilities? Achievements?
( 4 ) How long do you intend working for this company ?
( 5 ) Are you currently employed?
( 6 ) Are you willing to work flexible or long hours?
( 7 ) Do you have a HP laser-jet printer, copier and scanner?
( 8 ) Are you seeking a Full time or Part time Position ?
( 9 ) What mobile carrier network do you use?
( 10 )Are you proficient in Word and Excel ?
( 11 ) How would you like to be Paid ? Weekly Or Bi-Weekly/Direct deposit or Wire Transfer ?
- NOTE: Pre-positioning the option for direct deposit; so it’s not a shock later when he asks for your personal banking information.
( 12 ) What Bank Do you Operate with to see if it tallies with the company’s official salary payment account ?
- NOTE: Whoop, there it is…
( 13 ) What do you understand by privacy and code of conduct ?”–end David’s quote…
“(1) Fork-lift, warehousing, sandblasting, manufacturing, technical support, customer service, data entry, sales, and help desk.
(2) Usually applying directly, or through contingent agent.
(3) In any customer service/technical support role, consistently maintain a 95%, or above, customer rated satisfaction rating. I have a lot of experience implementing 5S/6S Lean+Safety in an industrial/warehouse environment; improving safety, organization, and process improvements by designing improvements and implementing them. Typical typing speed around 69 wpm with at least 97% accuracy.
(4) I am looking for a long-term opportunity; with potentially, the possibility of advancement. (5) No. (6) Yes. (7) Yes [not HP brand, but equal].
(8) Prefer full-time, but open-minded to other options. (9) t-mobile. (10) Yes.
(11) Weekly via direct deposit; open to other options.
(12) They all do, it’s a credit union in a national network of other credit unions.
(13) Confidentiality of customers’ personal information, and the protection of private information; to ensure it’s not distributed to 3rd parties without consent.”
David: “In a grade of %100 how much can this company depend on you for your loyalty,diligence,hard work,team spirit and sincerity ?”
ME: “I would say 95% plus; at least. I rarely get sick, and I do not abuse time off requests; so they will be there for me when I actually really need the time off for something important. I prefer to be efficient on the front end, so I have more time for organization, soliciting feedback, etc. I know team-work is required and important for maximum effectiveness.”
David: “Your answers will be forwarded to my head of department now for review and consideration for (15-20) minutes. I will be here shortly with your interview result. Please standby and make sure your Hangout is available.”
ME: “Ok. Thank you David!”
- NOTE: Oh, around 25-28 minutes later…
David: “CONGRATULATIONS!!! After due consideration and answers you provided during the interview session, Luxottica is pleased to offer you the position of a Data Entry. Due to your experience and communication skills we have decided to give you a chance to work for the company and we trust that your knowledge, skills and experience will be among our most valuable assets.”
ME: “Great news; thank you!”
David: “Your Primary duties include: Assist on general administrative duties, Preparation of Balance sheets (Mini), account balancing, invoicing recording,proper data analysis of sales records and recording pay slips into accounting database all these will be done through the use of the Accounting Software.
Secondary duties: Now, your secondary daily duties would be to report to your Supervisor, who would be attached to you online, He/She would assign logs of duty daily and you would be required to work according to instructions, using the Microsoft Office tools and the Accounting software. Now the function of the Accounting software is to arrange, formalize and manage the data you have processed, sent to your supervisor via E-mail.
Can you handle these effectively if been trained towards it ?”
ME: “Yes.”
David: “As for your duties, I will assist you with any difficulties.. You can as well work between 40 hours weekly and you are 100 percent sure of getting paid for it.. Working hours are flexible. All activities and corresponding time are to be recorded in excel spreadsheet. You will Earn $25 per hour, You will receive your pay via Direct Deposit/Cheque weekly Okay”
- NOTE: “between 40 hours weekly”? WhWhat?
- NOTE: “you are 100 percent sure of getting paid for it” LOL! omg
ME: “Ok; thanks.”
David: “In the meantime, I need you to provide me with the following info so my secretary can put you to register….
Full Name:
Home address:
City:
State/Province:
Zip Code:
Cell and home number:
Favorable email address:”–end David’s quote.
ME: “Can you send me your contact information first please?
I have zero information about your office, except your email.”
David: “Luxottica.com”
- NOTE: Not what I had asked for; waited a little longer for reply this time.
ME: “Oh, thanks; I meant your office phone, extension, address of your office. Thanks!”
David: “It’s international company don’t you read about it”
ME: “Yes. But they aren’t going to list the phone # to your office. Are you in Italy? What’s your extension?”
- NOTE: Have yet to receive a reply to this question, and it’s been hours, and HOURS!
I wouldn’t recommend trying to drag on your conversations with scammers this far, it’s a complete waste of time; it’s best to just move on.
I’ve dealt with these kind of people a number of times over the years, and I was trying to get more information; though with the scammer is likely out of the country, and using a VOIP phone number–I wouldn’t get much information. I know when to stop.
But, this gives you an idea of the kind of process a scammer will use; with each scam, the process is the same, but the methods vary — sometimes wildly.
- to keep you engaged for as long as possible, trying to build credibility all along.
- get you used to providing vague information, then more personal information as the process continues; at some point, asking for banking and/or identification information.
- presenting information that is–or appears–accurate, regarding the company the scammer claims to be representing.
- To pray on your hope, then your money you can’t afford to give away.
thebalancecareers.com: “Top 10 Job Scam Warning Signs“
- In some nations, these scams are intended to get your money; in others, they want to take your body, money, and perhaps your life…
Due diligence is your responsibility!
You have a right to ask questions! You have a right to verify information, and to ask 3rd parties to help verify information!
Even if you need to call the real company to ask about the person that claims to work there, whatever.
Thank you!
Administrative Professional
This just happened to me almost exactly like this last week.
time to shine again! 💯🙏❤️
David Beckman Same here
Owner at MBA Company llc.
I’m Lucy from Monster. We offer quality remote online part-time/full-time jobs. Flexible working hours allow you to work 5 days a week and receive a bonus of $200 to $2000 per day. You also receive a base salary of $1500 every 5 working days. This job can bring a good income to the family. Regular employees are entitled to 10-20 days of paid annual leave. If you would like to join us, please contact us by adding WhatsApp: +12022905213
Computers Parts and RMA Process Outsoursing
I receive oferta 2 same HR 2 different company restaurant365 and UNACAST,, 2 REAL COMPANY 2 FAKE offers the Scam and I almost fell into the trap if it wasn’t for seeing the email Dominios, I would have fallen into the trap. and same HR Manager Name and lasta name
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